03/25/1994 08:35 AM House FIN

  HB 409    An  Act   relating  to  the   maximum  amount   of                 
            assistance  that may  be granted  under the  adult                 
            public assistance program  and the program  of aid                 
            to families with  dependent children; proposing  a                 
            special demonstration project  within the  program                 
            of aid  to  families with  dependent children  and                 
            directing  the  Department  of  Health and  Social                 
                                                                               
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            Services  to   seek  waivers   from  the   federal                 
            government to implement the project; and providing                 
            for an effective date.                                             
                                                                               
            CS HB 409 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with                 
            a  "do  pass" recommendation  and  with seven  new                 
            fiscal impact notes  by the  Department of  Health                 
            and Social Services and with three fiscal notes by                 
            the Department of Health and Social Services dated                 
            3/04/94.                                                           
  HOUSE BILL 409                                                               
                                                                               
       "An Act relating  to the  maximum amount of  assistance                 
       that may be  granted under the adult  public assistance                 
       program  and  the  program  of  aid  to  families  with                 
       dependent children; proposing  a special  demonstration                 
       project  within  the program  of  aid to  families with                 
       dependent children  and  directing  the  Department  of                 
       Health and  Social Services  to seek  waivers from  the                 
       federal  government  to  implement   the  project;  and                 
                                                                               
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       providing for an effective date."                                       
                                                                               
  JAN HANSEN, DIRECTOR, ADULT PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, DEPARTMENT OF                 
  HEALTH AND SOCIAL  SERVICES, described  changes made to  the                 
  proposed legislation by  the House Finance Committee.   When                 
  adding    Fairbanks,    the   additional    site   increased                 
  administrative  and  child  care  costs   for  those  people                 
  participating.   She  added  that the  changes  made in  the                 
  "workfare"  requirement,  deleting  those participants  with                 
  children three years  of age and  then only including  those                 
  with children six  years and older, would  reduce child care                 
  costs.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown   questioned  if   the  Adult   Public                 
  Assistance   (APA)   reduction   would  place   low   income                 
  participants  in  a  situation  of  not being  eligible  for                 
  Medicaid.  She asked how these  persons would be affected by                 
  HB 409.   Ms. Hansen replied that  the changes to APA  for a                 
  person with no income would be  minimal and advised that the                 
  reduction was  structured in such  a way that  those persons                 
  who could not receive APA payments would  not lose Medicaid.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Representative Hanley MOVED to report CS HB 409 (FIN) out of                 
  Committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  with  the                 
  accompanying fiscal notes.  Representative Brown OBJECTED.                   
                                                                               
  A roll call vote was taken on the MOTION.                                    
                                                                               
       IN FAVOR:      Martin,  Parnell,   Therriault,  Hanley,                 
                      Larson.                                                  
       OPPOSED:       Hoffman, Brown, Grussendorf.                             
                                                                               
  Representatives Navarre, Foster and MacLean were not present                 
  for the vote.                                                                
                                                                               
  The MOTION FAILED (5-3).                                                     
  HOUSE BILL 409                                                               
                                                                               
       "An Act relating  to the  maximum amount of  assistance                 
       that may be  granted under the adult  public assistance                 
       program  and  the  program  of  aid  to  families  with                 
       dependent children; proposing  a special  demonstration                 
       project  within  the program  of  aid to  families with                 
       dependent  children  and  directing  the Department  of                 
       Health and  Social Services  to seek  waivers from  the                 
       federal  government  to   implement  the  project;  and                 
       providing for an effective date."                                       
                                                                               
  Representative  Hanley  MOVED  TO RESCIND  Committee  action                 
  taken on failure to report CS HB 409 (FIN) out of Committee.                 
  Representative Brown OBJECTED.                                               
                                                                               
  A roll call vote was taken on the MOTION.                                    
                                                                               
       IN FAVOR:      Parnell,  Therriault,   Foster,  Hanley,                 
                      Martin, Larson, MacLean.                                 
       OPPOSED:       Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman.                             
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre was not present for the vote.                         
                                                                               
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  The MOTION PASSED (7-3).                                                     
                                                                               
  Representative Hanley MOVED to report CS HB 409 (FIN) out of                 
  Committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  with  the                 
  accompanying fiscal notes.  Representative Hoffman OBJECTED.                 
  Representative  Grussendorf  spoke  against the  legislation                 
  which  would make  cuts  to areas  not participating  in the                 
  program.  Representative  Hoffman added  that the funds  for                 
  the program should have originated from general funds rather                 
  than  being   taken  from  those   families  with  dependant                 
  children.   He emphasized  that the  Association of  Village                 
  Council Presidents spoke strongly against the legislation.                   
                                                                               
  A roll call vote was taken on the MOTION.                                    
                                                                               
       IN FAVOR:      Parnell,  Therriault,   Foster,  Hanley,                 
                      Martin, MacLean, Larson.                                 
       OPPOSED:       Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman.                             
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre was not present for the vote.                         
                                                                               
  The MOTION PASSED (7-3).                                                     
                                                                               
  CS HB 409 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with "do pass"                 
  recommendation and with seven fiscal notes by the Department                 
  of Health and Social Services and  three fiscal notes by the                 
  Department of Health and Social Services dated 3/04/94.